Is There More than A Love Triangle In Wicked?

It is very obvious in Wicked that a love triangle is in it, which is very ironic and complicated, but is there more in Wicked than just a love triangle? This musical focuses so much on Elphaba, Fiyero, and Glinda.

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You first know there is romance in Wicked during Dancing Through Life. Boq asks Glinda to the school dance. We learn that Boq actually loves Glinda, but Glinda asks Boq to take Nessa to the dance since Glinda wants to ask Fiyero. So right now Boq loves Glinda and Glinda supposedly is starting to love Fiyero. But at the dance things get even more challenging. We now learn that Nessa loves Boq. So now Nessa loves Boq, Boq loves Glinda, and Glinda loves Fiyero. So right now we have a bit of a love quadrangle.

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Elphaba starts getting involved in the picture starting with the lion cub incident. In class, a professor is starting to do an experiment on a scared lion cub and out of anger, Elphaba casts a spell on the class and it doesn’t affect Fiyero. The two run off to free the lion cub. In this scene, Elphaba realizes she loves Fiyero for the first time. It would be easy at this point to see the musical is only home to a love triangle. Elphaba feels like she isn’t good enough for Fiyero because she is green and she knows that her best friend loves him. There are hints in the lion cub scene and after “I’m Not That Girl” that maybe Fiyero has a crush on Elphaba, but not realizing it.

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Things get even more complicated in act II. During “Thank Goodness”, Fiyero hears rumors about Elphaba and in this moment, he realizes that he loves Elphaba. So he ends up breaking up with Glinda and searches for Elphaba. Now the unrequited love has shifted from Glinda to Fiyero, which really challenges things.

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The whole love situation in Wicked is way more than a love triangle. Even though it is more than a love triangle, a love triangle still exists. That is due to both Glinda and Elphaba being in love with Fiyero. So the whole situation is that Nessa loves Boq, Boq loves Glinda, and Glinda and Elphaba love Fiyero. So four characters in Wicked go through unrequited love, but isn’t well noticed by Boq or Nessa. The unrequited love seems mainly focused on Elphaba in act I and she is able to move on from Fiyero and later Fiyero and Elphaba end up a couple. Elphaba’s story revolves around friendship and not unrequited love.

This whole love pentagon thing in Wicked only adds to the complexity. The only unrequited love song is “I’m Not That Girl”, which why it is easy to overlook the love pentagon and only see a love triangle. That song is sung twice: The first being the full song and sung by Elphaba and the second time it is sung by Glinda and as a reprise. Due to Nessa and Boq only being secondary characters, you might not understand their importance to the story and you might easily overlook them. After all, the story is truly about the friendship between Elphaba and Glinda.

So do you feel like Wicked’s romance is more than love triangle?

 

Popular Analysis

As a matter of fact, pink is my favorite color. My favorite outfit that Glinda wears is the dress that she wears during Popular. Popular is my favorite song from Wicked because the main thing I remember about seeing Wicked on Broadway with my mom in 2006 was the fact that the song, Popular, was my favorite song from the show. So Popular has a wonderful connection to the first time I ever saw Wicked. Whenever I see Wicked, Popular makes me feel like a twelve year old the most even the rest of it makes me feel the same age.

I find Popular to be a very special song from Wicked. This songs happens after Dancing Through Life. Both Glinda and Elphaba bonded during Dancing Through Life when Glinda made something special out of Elphaba’s dance. But Popular is really the moment where the two start to become best friends. The friendship found between Elphaba and Glinda is the core of Wicked. The friendship in Wicked gives me a bigger emotional connection than the love triangle.

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The scene leading up to Popular is interesting as a matter of fact. The two girls share a secret with each. Glinda is quite crazy in what she said because she said that Fiyero and her are going to get married, but it is funny because he hasn’t proposed. Well, one big reason why I love Glinda is her comic nature. Elphaba shares something very personal to Glinda. She explains her family situation. She explains that her father hates her because for one she is green and because he blames her for why her mother died and why Nessa is disabled. That was all due to because her father feared Nessa would turn out green so he made her mother eat milk flowers. Well, Glinda tries to explain that it wasn’t her fault.

In Popular, Glinda decides to try to give Elphaba a makeover. It is a very funny song in the musical. Glinda wants to help Elphaba feel more accepted. Well, this is really the moment where you realize that they will become friends. At the end, Glinda says “pink goes good with green” hoping to make Elphaba more beautiful since she is well green. In an acting class, I once performed Popular and this is quite a fun song. Glinda is my favorite comic character in the world of musicals and she is the main form of comedy in Wicked.

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Boy, this song is hard to analyze. It just has special meaning to me due to it being my favorite song from the musical as a twelve year old.

What are your thoughts on this song?

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Letter to Elphaba, Fiyero, and Glinda

Dear Elphaba, Fiyero, and Glinda

You three are my favorite characters in Wicked. Elphaba: I know exactly why I love you. But Glinda and Fiyero, that reason is so hard to pinpoint. Elphaba, I feel like I relate to you so much, but of course I don’t relate to everything. Elphaba, like you I am smart, determined, talkative, unique, and believe in equality, and staying true you yourself. Glinda, I have some reasons why I love you. A huge part of it is your friendship with Elphaba and I love your comic side a lot. But Fiyero, I honestly cannot pinpoint the exact reason why I love you. Fiyero, I feel like it has something to do with the love triangle, but there has to be other reasons.

You three, I decided to talk about you three today due to the love triangle. I love the love triangle in this musical. You three create the most complex and fascinating one. That is due to what happens in act two. Glinda, you started out being in a relationship with Fiyero. But Elphaba, you started out with feeling unrequited love for Fiyero. But in act two, the tables are turned. Now Glinda, Fiyero broke up with you and began a relationship with Elphaba. Fiyero, I feel like you had a crush on Elphaba in act one without even realizing it.

To be honest, it took a less complex love triangle to understand this one better. I honestly am not joking about that. In Les Mis, there is a love triangle and there is no unrequited love shift and the unrequited love is felt even stronger and even more heartbreaking. “I’m Not That Girl” started out as being sad and eventually became heartbreaking. For the longest time ever, “I’m Not That Girl” stayed sad. That was due to not knowing about heartbreak growing up. Les Mis introduced me to that emotion. At first, I also didn’t realized “On My Own” was heartbreaking and that song is about Eponine’s unrequited love for Marius and at first, I didn’t see the heartbreak either, but as I got to know that character more and more, I realized that song was heartbreaking.

I know you three may not be familiar with Les Mis. But it helped me better understand your love triangle. Due to the parallel between “On My Own” and “I’m Not That Girl”, your love triangle strengthened and made me love it even more. That realization made me feel even more vulnerable to the story. Due to the unrequited love shift, it is fascinating to watch. Besides, you were the first love triangle I was fully aware of.

What are your thoughts on the Wicked love triangle?

Strong Musical Characters

In my opinion, strong musical characters exist. It can be quite difficult to understand what makes a character strong. Some of them have very challenging lives and they tend to know how to thrive.  Some of them are very strong-willed and even can be stubborn.

Here is the list I think of at the moment:

  1. Elphaba
  2. Glinda
  3. Jean Valjean
  4. Eponine
  5. Young Cosette
  6. Fantine
  7. Anna- King and I
  8. Maria- Sound of Music

What exactly makes all of these characters strong? Well, both Anna and Maria are very strong-willed and both the Captain and the King both call them difficult women. Those two might be the most surprising on this list, but I know they are strong-willed.

Young Cosette is quite a strong character. She is Fantine’s daughter and her mother had to leave her in the hands of the Thenardiers. Little does Fantine know that the Thenardiers are going to treat her daughter poorly. The Thenardiers horribly abuse the little girl and forcing her to be a servant. Young Cosette is quite optimistic and is always positive that she will eventually get rescued. She eventually does after Valjean comes to take her away after promising to her dying mother that he will raise Cosette as his own.

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Thinking of Young Cosette, I would like to talk about Eponine. Eponine and Cosette have an interesting dynamic in a way. Their lives completely switch places. While Cosette was rescued from the Thenardiers and gets a better life, Eponine is stuck with them her whole life. Eponine has to grow up pretty quickly due to how the Thenardiers will treat her. Her parents are quite horrible towards her and she gets the same treatment that Cosette got. She becomes the abused, neglected and lonely teenager and was raised to be a criminal. Her life has gotten even worse and all she sees in her life is darkness.

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All of this is highly important to order to understand her. Even though she was treated horribly, she is brave and tough and manages to not fully develop her parents wicked ways. I think that might have something to do with Marius. What makes matters even worse is that she has only one source of light in her life. That would be Marius, but she falls in love with him unrequitedly, but she is quite protective when it comes to him. She would anything for him and he is what keeps her going. He is the only person who treats her kindly and he does care about her even though he is unaware that she loves him..

Jean Valjean is both physically and spiritually strong. He is well known for his physical strength. The book compares his physical strength to the strength of four men. He also is very spiritually strong. When released from prison, he is a very angered, harsh, and hateful man. But through the forgiveness, kindness, and compassion shown by the bishop, Valjean starts his life fresh and lives by the bishop’s example. His actions clearly show that. Whether that is promising Fantine he will raise her daughter, saving Marius from the barricade or turning himself in when an innocent man was believed to be him or forgiving Javert, his spiritual strength shows. He has to live his life as an ex-convict and it is his spiritual strength that makes him show compassion and forgiveness and always lives by the bishop’s example.

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Fantine is quite a heart-renching character. She was abandoned by her lover leaving her to care for Cosette. She has to abandon her child in the hands of the Thenardiers. She even was fired from Valjean’s factory and had to turn to prostitution to provide for her child. She received a letter from the Thenardiers telling her that Cosette is deathly ill, but little does she know that Cosette’s guardians are actually scamming Fantine out of money and that they are horribly abusing her daughter. It is the love of Cosette that keeps Fantine thriving. In an act of self-defense, she attacks a man after he sexually harassed her and Valjean intervenes to prevent her from being arrested. She does not know what will happen to Cosette and Valjean decides to promise Fantine that he will raise Cosette as his own.

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As far as Glinda, it is hard for me to describe why she is strong. But I know that she is. I do know that she has to face people spreading rumors about her best friend and she still sticks by even though it does hurt her. Fiyero even leaves her for Elphaba.

As far as Elphaba goes, the strength is easier to notice. Elphaba has been treated like an outcast her whole life. Her father hates her because she was born green and blames her for the reason why her mother is dead and why Nessa is disabled. Even at school, people still misunderstand her. She befriends Glinda and Glinda becomes her best friend and the story centers around their friendship. Even in the second act when the Wizard makes the citizens of OZ believe she is Wicked, she is still strong. She has always been misunderstood, but she is such a wonderful young woman. She truly does develop through this musical. At the beginning she is very hopeful full of innocence, but it is during “Defying Gravity” where she truly matures and finds a new purpose in life.

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In your opinion, what makes a musical character strong and what are some examples of strong musical characters?

Ironies of “I’m Not That Girl” and “As Long As Your’e Mine”

I know I already wrote at least two posts dealing with the Wicked love triangle. But now I want to talk just how ironic these two songs actually are. The ironies of these songs is what makes the Wicked love triangle my favorite.

“I’m Not That Girl” happens in the very first act, which is sung by Elphaba. It is a heartbreaking and insightful song about unrequited love and it took me quite a while to know the song is heartbreaking. I first saw Wicked in 2006 and I always knew that “I’m Not That Girl” was a sad song. Even the third viewing, which was in 2013 during the month of February, I still didn’t pick up on it. By that point, I already knew heartbreak was part of the musical world thanks to seeing the Les Mis movie the year before in December. But I didn’t actually accept or even grasp the emotion until March of 2013.

Sometime around midway in 2013 or sometime during 2014, I made a connection between “On My Own” and “I’m Not That Girl”. I knew that “On My Own” was a very strong and heartbreaking unrequited love song and realized that “I’m Not That Girl” is also about unrequited love and knew that Elphaba’s unrequited love for Fiyero was not quite as strong as Eponine’s love for Marius. But either way the two songs are unrequited love songs, which makes both heartbreaking songs.

This is the irony of “I’m Not That Girl”. In the scene previously, Elphaba just found out that she loves Fiyero. She noticed a scared lion cub in a cage during class and cast a spell on the class, which didn’t affect Fiyero. They both ran into the woods to free the cub and in that moment, she realized she loves him. It appears as if Elphaba will always have unrequited love for Fiyero and the song is moderately heartbreaking. There is actually no way of knowing how long Elphaba has been in love with Fiyero. The last time I saw Wicked, I began to wonder if Fiyero had a crush on Elphaba without even realizing it. The big fat irony comes from a plot twist in the second act.

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In the second act, the unrequited love shifts gears on you. Fiyero hears all of the rude comments about Elphaba and cannot believe Glinda is supporting all of this. He realizes that he loves Elphaba and there is no way of knowing when he fell in love with Elphaba even when there are clues in act one. So because the unrequited love shifted to Glinda, it is a bit ironic to feel heartbroken during “I’m Not That Girl”.

So after all of this mess, Fiyero goes out with Elphaba. So in “As Long As Your’e Mine”, they are officially a couple. This is something you just wouldn’t see coming. All of these plot twists make the love triangle in Wicked so difficult to interpret. Even though “I’m Not That Girl” will always make me feel heartbroken, there is still the irony in the fact that Elphaba will eventually end up with Fiyero, which leads to the irony of “As Long As Your’e Mine”.

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This love triangle adds an incredible texture and emotional value to Wicked. This is the only love triangle in the world of musicals that has major plot twists. It does seem like Elphaba will always have unrequited love for Fiyero, but that never has been the case. Her story doesn’t revolve around unrequited love at all. Due to “For Good” being more emotional than the heartbreaking and insightful “I’m Not That Girl”, it shows how much more important the friendship is in Wicked compared to the love triangle.

Love Triangles in Musicals

One of the best parts about musicals is romance itself. It translates well to song and is such a beautiful emotion. One fascinating type of love comes from a love triangle itself. There are three love triangles that easily come to mind when I think of a love triangle. They are ones from Phantom of the Opera, Les Mis, and Wicked. The plot of Phantom is basically a love triangle between Christine, Raoul, and Phantom. Than there is the love triangle in Les Mis, which happens between revolutionary Marius, brave Eponine, and innocent Cosette. But my favorite love triangle is in Wicked, which is between Elphaba, Glinda and Fiyero. The rest of this post will focus on these three love triangles more in detail.

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First up is love triangle in Phantom. This is the hardest love triangle to explain. I hardly have gotten to know this love triangle. I am one of those people who actually appreciate Raoul and Christine together. They are my favorite characters in this musical. Many people hate Raoul because he falls in love and Christine chooses him. That makes no sense at all because Raoul is such a wonderful guy. Christine and Raoul were childhood sweethearts. I love Raoul and Christine together and have nothing wrong with Phantom getting stuck with unrequited love. Phantom’s story basically revolves around this unrequited love. He seems to be a little too obsessed with Christine, which leads him to do destructive behaviors. I honestly have no idea how to describe this love triangle. Phantom of the Opera would lose a lot of its charm if Christine choose the Phantom.

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The next love triangle I am going to talk about is the one in Les Mis, which is between Eponine, Marius, and Cosette. Once again, I appreciate Marius with Cosette even though I love Eponine more than both of those characters. One of the best things about Les Mis is the switch between Eponine and Cosette, which is why it makes sense that Eponine gets the unrequited love and that Cosette ends up with Marius.

When Cosette and Eponine were children, Cosette was horribly abused by Eponine’s parents and they treated her like a servant. Cosette was quite unloved and broken on the inside, but was full of so much hope. Eponine’s parents, especially Madame Thenardier, seemed to love Eponine and they would spoil her. Well things take a turn when Valjean arrives to take Cosette away. While Cosette was rescued, Eponine was stuck with the Thenardiers her whole life.

After Cosette was taken away and ended up getting a better life, Eponine got the same treatment that Cosette got. She became so unloved, abused, lonely and neglected. She was taught the skills of the criminal world and how to steal and to lie. Her parents did not care for her. Once the two girls got older, Cosette’s life improved a lot while Eponine’s life became even worse. Both girls did fall in love with Marius, but Marius only has eyes for Cosette. Marius appears to treat Eponine unfairly, but he never once did. All Eponine has in her life in Marius and that’s it and is why her unrequited love is so heartbreaking and why she loves Marius as much as she does.

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Eponine does anything for Marius. She locates Cosette for him and protects him when her father and his gang tries to rob Valjean’s house. All of her actions are done out of love for Marius and that might seem like a weakness, but in reality it never was. Marius was the reason why she rose above her upbringing. Marius is what kept her going even though it led to tragic consequences. She does decide to join Marius at the barricade and Marius noticing that she is there asks her to deliver a letter to Cosette. He was only trying to protect her from the uprising (Gavroche delvers the letter in the movie).

Eponine finally was able to accept the fact that Marius will never be hers, but she will stick by his side no matter what. Well, Eponine does return to the barricades and while climbing over she gets shot and her wound ends up being fatal (in the movie, Marius was about to get shot and Eponine sacrificed her life to save Marius). Marius does decide to stay with Eponine until she dies, but she is happy being in the arms of the man she loves. Eponine’s fate is perfect just the way it is. This leaves Marius devastated and he truly knew just how dark Eponine’s life was. Literally right after she died, he said to the students “her name was Eponine, her life was cold and dark, yet she was unafraid”.

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Valjean, learning through the letter that Eponine gave him, he realized that his adopted daughter loves Marius. Valjean heads over to the barricade to make sure Marius comes out alive. He prays to God to save him and Valjean has to end up carrying Marius after he fell unconscious. Valjean takes Marius through the sewers. Marius is the only survivor of the uprising and he has to struggle with survivor’s guilt. Cosette helps him recover from his wounds. Marius and Cosette get married, but they still have lots going on. Marius lost both Eponine and all of his friends at the barricade and Cosette had a horrible childhood. In the book, Marius has a lot going on especially with his home life. On the night of Cosette’s wedding, Marius and Cosette head over to see Valjean, but discover that he is dying. Cosette had to watch her adopted father die and all Marius and Cosette have left is each other.

This love triangle as a matter of fact adds a wonderful texture to Les Mis. The switch between Eponine and Cosette fascinates me. Marius did love both Eponine and Cosette, but in different ways. Marius loved Eponine as a friend and did care about her and he loved Cosette in a romantic way. One of the most overarching themes in Les Mis is love itself: not just romance. It has love for the law, love for a parent, love for a child, love for a country, romance: both requited and unrequited, but ultimately love for God. So it is completely fitting that there is a love triangle in Les Mis. The love triangle is not silly one bit. Marius is such a sweet, compassionate, and caring guy and I don’t think he ever was a jerk to Eponine.

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Last but not least there is the love triangle in Wicked. The love triangle in Wicked is my favorite love triangle and has been the one that has been part of my life the longest. It is between Elphaba, Glinda, and Fiyero. The romance is quite important in Wicked, but not as important as the friendship between Elphaba and Glinda. When Fiyero first arrives at Shiz, Elphaba does find Fiyero bit too annoying and a bit kind of rude. Fiyero invites everyone to a school dance and this is when Glinda and Fiyero date for the first time. There was this day in class when Doctor Dillamond was taken away and a new teacher comes in and Elphaba spots this scared lion cub trapped in a cage. Out of anger, she cast a spell on the class and for some odd reason it didn’t affect Fiyero. Both Fiyero and Elphaba run out in an open field to free the lion.

Through the conversation they have, Elphaba realizes that she actually loves Fiyero. “I’m Not That Girl” is a heartbreaking unrequited love song, but not fully heartbreaking in the fact that Elphaba just discovered she loves Fiyero. There was a time when I didn’t view “I’m Not That Girl” as a heartbreaking song because at the time, I didn’t understand what it meant for a musical song to be heartbreaking. But I did know the song was sad and through the help of “On My Own” and memorizing the lyrics, I realized that the song was heartbreaking, which actually strengthened and deepended the love triangle, which gave the musical a bigger sense of vulnerability.

The last time I saw Wicked, I began to wonder about Fiyero. The way he was interacting with Elphaba before “I’m Not That Girl” and afterwards when we learn he couldn’t stop thinking of the scene with the lion cub. I started to wonder if Fiyero actually had a crush on Elphaba without even realizing it.

Out of a major plot twist, Fiyero actually breaks up with Glinda and realized that he loves Elphaba. He hates the fact that Glinda is staying with the citizens of OZ because they are saying disrespectful things about her best friend. When Glinda realizes that Elphaba and Fiyero have started a relationship, she feels betrayed by both of them. The shift in unrequited love in Wicked is why my favorite love triangle is in that musical.

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So overall, love triangles provide incredible textures and are not pointless. They don’t take away from the plot. I think they actually add to a musical plot. I think the love triangles are perfect just the way they are. Christine and Raoul and Cosette and Marius are wonderful couples. What did Raoul and Marius even do wrong? What is so wrong with Phantom and Eponine having unrequited love in the first place?

Eponine is such a wonderful character and I feel like she would lose a lot of her charm and vulnerability if the unrequited love wasn’t there. If Marius was not in love with Cosette, Marius would never have been rescued from the barricade. Les Mis was crafted wonderfully and is perfect just the way it is. In the case of Phantom, Raoul is a much better fit for Chrsitne because he doesn’t seek revenge like the Phantom does. As for Wicked, the unrequited love shifts from Elphaba to Glinda.

“For Good” Analysis

In my personal opinion, the most emotional song in Wicked is “For Good”, a bittersweet duet between Elphaba and Glinda. The song is even more emotional than the heartbreaking “I’m Not That Girl”. One of the most unique things about Wicked is that it is about the friendship between Elphaba and Glinda. It has two strong, complex, and young women and it follows their relationship. These two girls start out as extremely reluctant roommates and eventually became the best of friends. Their friendship starts after they bonded at a school dance.

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They do find themselves both in love with Fiyero. At first, Elphaba has unrequited love for Fiyero. She didn’t realize that she fell in love with Fiyero until right before “I’m Not That Girl”. Through a plot twist, the unrequited love shifts to Glinda.

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In act II, Fiyero breaks up with Glinda after hearing people say rude comments about Elphaba. He just couldn’t believe that she is sticking with them. Glinda does not like hearing the rude comments either, but she doesn’t want to lose her popularity. This is when Fiyero realizes that he loves Elphaba. Sometimes I wonder about Fiyero. I am beginning to think that he had a crush on Elphaba without even realizing it. I found clues right before “I’m Not That Girl” and clues right after that scene that makes you wonder if he has loved Elphaba before he broke up with Glinda.

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“For Good” happens at about the very end of Wicked. This is the last time Elphaba and Glinda will see each other. They realized that they changed each others lives for the better. The song is quite emotional, bittersweet and very powerful. They are literally saying what they mean to each other. They know that they were never forget each other.This is the song where everything comes together.

Throughout Wicked, you realize that Elphaba was never wicked, but just misunderstood. Elphaba has a big heart who is smart, determined, talkative, and passionate. Glinda is quite funny and popular who feels privileged. The core of Wicked is the relationship between these two girls. That is why “For Good” is the most emotional song in Wicked. The last time I Saw Wicked, which was my fourth time, I cried during “For Good” because the Elphaba and Glinda were that brilliant.