Musical Characters I am Particular about which Actors/Actresses play them

We all love favorite characters. We do want them to be played well. However, there are certain characters that we can be particular about which actor/actress can play certain characters. I barely have some- I only have two: that is it: it really is one, but it does come down to down (you will soon come down to two).

The character I am particular about who plays the role is Elphaba. My reasoning is due to the fact that she is my all-time favorite musical theatre character. Why do you think I am particular about who plays her? Each time I see her, I am always seeing an actress I am not at all familiar with the actress who plays her. But still particular about who plays her- as in how she is portrayed. She has to be embodied perfectly- I can see an excellent Elphaba, but that still isn’t enough.

This comes to the second character I am particular about. That is Glinda. Here’s the thing- Elphaba can never throughly be brilliant without Glinda just like Glinda can never throughly be portrayed brilliant without an excellent Elphaba. It just will not work. Those two after all are like super glue- both have to be embodied incredibly. I am not joking.

My last Elphaba and Glinda were like that. Mary Kate Morrissey (standby Elphaba) and Amanda Jane Copper (Glinda) were a perfect fit. It made Mary Kate Morrissey’s excellent Elphaba stronger. I already knew she was excellent, but if Amanda Jane Copper’s Glinda didn’t fit like glue into her Elphaba, something would have totally wouldn’t have felt like that. I need those to come first- not Mary Kate Morrissey’s Elphaba and Ashley Parker Angel’s Fiyero (that comes 2nd). You need “For Good” to hit you harder than “I’m Not That Girl”.

Elphaba and Glinda during "Popular"

Elphaba means more to me than a number of other musical theatre character. She is one of the hugest reasons why Wicked is still hanging there at my favorite musical. Why do you think Les Mis is still tied? Elphaba is not just a character I have an emotional connection to, but a character I strongly relate to. It will be hard for other Elphaba’s to be at the same level as Mary Kate Morrissey’s. For starter’s- she was paired with the right Glinda. Same with the voice- it was altered from innocent to mature. Pretty much embodied everything.

So, the characters I am most particular about belongs to Elphaba and Glinda. You never can have a brilliant Elphaba without a brilliant Glinda and you never can brilliant Glinda without a brilliant Elphaba.

I can tell you this- after the tour, Amanda Jane Copper ended up playing Glinda on Broadway along with Ashley Parker as Fiyero after they left the tour- so the tour can lead actors and actresses to Broadway. Mary Kate Morrissey ended up being the main Elphaba on tour- she deserved it. Those three will ALWAYS be my favorite Elphaba x Fiyero x Glinda. I don’t even remember my three Elphaba x Fiyero x Glinda’s before them, but I do know this- who those three characters are today are a combo of all four.

It is true. A lot of times-I do end up seeing actors/actresses in principal roles I am not at all familiar with. So, I have NEVER once seen the same actor/actress in more than lead role- unless you count college productions.

What characters are you particular about who plays them?

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Different Types of Fathers in Musical Theatre/WIP

Yes, Sunday was Father’s Day. That day I made mention of fathers I do love in musical theatre. You might realize they all share a common theme- Valjean, Maurice, and Mufasa all LOVE their children. I thought to do the complete opposite here- what about talking about the fathers who shouldn’t have children- the ones who DON’T CARE about or LOVE their children. Some of these fathers are worse than others. Only one of them is not part of musical theatre.

Sarge’s father:

For starters, I know there are readers who know who Sarge is and there are a ton who have no idea how he is. He is my antagonist in my Fairy Frogs book- a bully. What caused that? Now let’s talk about his father- the reason behind his actions. Sarge was only around 3 or 5 when his mother left him.

His father first started mistreating and abusing him through words alone and then it got more physical- at 13, his father left him. Sarge only found comfort in “The Bog” in Graysloup- the only place his father never knew existed. The physical abuse is shown on Sarge- in my book, he has permanent scars. So, that is how extreme his father can get. Sarge is jealous, angry, conflicted, and confused. He is still trying to deal with the wounds of his past, which most likely will never heal. Sarge’s father never showed him love or compassion- nothing-it led Sarge to put his pain on others.

Why do you think Sarge became the bully that he is- his easiest target is Marge, his younger cousin. After all, her father is his Uncle, his father’s brother- who is a loving father. It is the hardest for me to talk about Sarge’s father out of everyone on this list- that is what happens when you are an author- you create the characters- and you do become quite attached to all of the characters- yes, even the ones who aren’t the nicest of guys.

Musical Theatre:

Thenardier- well, yet another abusive father. You would think it would hurt just as much to talk about Eponine and Gavroche’s father than Sarge’s, but it doesn’t hurt as much to talk about Thenardier only because I didn’t create him. Thenardier is one of the worst parts of humanity in Les Misérables. He is a pick-pocket, is despicable, abusive, and greedy. I can understand why in 1832 he had to steal at times- in order to live since the entire family fell into extreme poverty, but to not love your children. He literally raised Eponine to be a thief and criminal- he never showed her kindness at all. In 1832, you see he just used her to his advantage. Eponine was only shown kindness by one person-Marius, which is why she falls in love with him: at least he was in her life and was with her in the end. To make matters worse- he kicked Gavroche out. Then at the barricade, he didn’t care that BOTH Eponine and Gavroche were killed. One of the worst musical theatre dads out there. He is that father you love to hate and hate to love- in the musical he is comic relief.

Elphaba’s dad- her dad isn’t quite as bad as Thenardier. Her dad HATES her just because she is different. She is different only because she was born green. He later does blame her for why her mother is dead and why her sister is disabled. He spoils her sister while ignoring Elphaba. Elphaba is only HATED just because she is green by her father.

What are other musical theatre dads you don’t like?

What makes Les Mis’ love triangle Easier to understand than Wicked’s?

I will describe here why the love triangle in Les Mis is less complex than the one in Wicked. The love triangle in Les Mis is found between revolutionary Marius, brave and strong Eponine, curious and protected Cosette. The love triangle in Wicked is between Elphaba, Glinda, and Fiyero. What makes one love triangle less complex than the other.

Major Spoilers:

For starters, all the characters in Wicked are complex. It is the most obvious that Elphaba and Glinda are complex. Fiyero is complex even though it does not seem that way. Fiyero’s complexity comes from his role in the love triangle and his development. In act I, Elphaba has unrequited love for Fiyero, and you are expecting her to always have unrequited love for him. However in act II, that unrequited love jumps to Glinda when Fiyero realizes his love for Elphaba. You end up questioning a lot of things-such as did Fiyero have feelings for her previously? Why does the plot twist happen?, etc…. This curveball is important on Fiyero’s development. It makes Fiyero mature. The love triangle in Wicked is important for the friendship found between Elphaba and Glinda- both of them decide to not steal Fiyero away from their best friend when they both have unrequited love for him- it strengthens their friendship. This love triangle is not straightforward.

I’m Not That Girl

Now on to the Les Mis love triangle. It is the one found between Cosette, Marius, and Eponine. There is a reason why it is less complex. It is straightforward. It is not like two people are getting hurt from unrequited love. Only Cosette and Marius are a couple and Eponine has unrequited love- it stays that way unlike Wicked where the scenario switches gears on you. See what I mean. Fiyero and Marius are characters who are more complex than what they seem to be. To fully understand the Les Mis love triangle, you have to remember Cosette and Eponine’s childhoods- that would be important latter on.

Young Cosette is a servant at the Thenardiers’ inn. The Thenardiers are Eponine’s parents. As a child, the Thenardiers treat Cosette horribly- so you already know the Thenardiers are abusive- based upon how they treat Cosette. They seem to love Eponine as a child. After “Castle on a Cloud”, you discover that the Thenardiers are also pickpockets. You slowly get an idea of the environment that Eponine is going to grow up in. As a child, Jean Valjean arrives and takes Cosette away and provides her with a better life leaving the Thenardiers to treat Eponine the same way they treated Cosette. So while Cosette goes from bad to good, Eponine goes from good to bad- that switch intrigues me. Eponine ended up being raised to be a thief and criminal and also ended up being unloved, abused, and neglected. She wasn’t shown kindness growing up.

Enter Marius-in Eponine’s situation, he was the first person who treated her kindly. He ended up being the only person who treated her like this. He was sweet and kind to her. He ended up being the only good thing in her life. She never saw any one like him before. His kindness moved her to fall in love with him- this love ended up her greatest strength. Then, what happens when he and Cosette first bumped into each other- they fall in love, and Marius constantly is oblivious to Eponine’s love her him. Now Eponine’s love for Marius falls unrequited- it was before, but now it hurts her further, but she would do anything for him even if it means losing him forever. Marius was Eponine’s light. She would risk a lot for him- she was why Marius and Cosette got together, and she protected Marius no matter what even when it meant standing up against her father.


Eponine did accept her unrequited love, which was clearly shown in “On My Own”. Based on the fact that she would protect Marius, she was led to the barricade. Marius was trying to protect her when he discovered her: that was why, I believe, he sent her away with that letter: hoping she didn’t come back, but she did. She sacrificed herself to save Marius from being killed. Her injuries were fatal, and still climbed down the barricade. She knew she was dying. When Marius saw her, he was worried: why else do you think he asked, why she came back. When she collapsed, she was happy being in the arms of Marius. Yes, Marius was devastated, but at least he stayed with her. You might call her love for Marius a weakness, but it was her greatest strength.

Wicked’s love triangle has the unrequited love jump from Elphaba to Glinda. The Les Mis love triangle does not have the unrequited jump: it stays on Eponine. See what I mean, it is easier to understand the Les Mis love triangle. Both have a reason for being in the musical- they are two of my favorite love triangles. To love a love triangle, you need to love the songs that come with them, the characters found in them, they are unique, and it is a love triangle where you understand why it is in there in the first place.


What makes Wicked’s love triangle hard to Understand?

Major Spoilers

Of all love triangles, Wicked is my favorite love triangle. It is complex, strong, and in addition, the first one I emotionally bonded with. All three characters are complex. Elphaba, Fiyero, and Glinda are complex characters- it is most obvious that Elphaba and Glinda are complex, but not Fiyero. He is complex even though it doesn’t seem that way. Those three characters are the only characters in Wicked that I am emotionally bonded to. Back to the question, what makes Wicked’s love triangle hard to understand?

The answer belongs to Fiyero. Elphaba and Glinda love Fiyero, and at some point in Wicked, both of them have unrequited love for Fiyero. In act I, the unrequited love belongs to Elphaba, and you think, Elphaba would always have unrequited love for him. However, Fiyero realizes in act II that he loves Elphaba making the unrequited love jump to Glinda. Why does this plot twist? Did something happen in act I that is important to Fiyero? There are a lot of things that make you wonder.

There are reasons why you thought Elphaba would always have unrequited love for him. Look at her response for Fiyero when she first met him- she couldn’t stand him- he didn’t make give a good impression. He was a jerk in the beginning. Why would Elphaba fall in love with him? She was the one with the full “I’m Not That Girl” while Glinda got a reprise of “I’m Not That Girl”, which was extremely short. Now, let’s get to Fiyero.

Last time I saw Wicked, I decided to pay really close attention to Fiyero. I did not want to leave the theatre with the “WHY” question again. Fiyero did have a crush on Elphaba at Shiz. Based upon the Lion Cub Scene, he and Elphaba were playfully flirty with each other making me coming to the conclusion that he did have a crush on Elphaba. Despite seeing that, I don’t think he realized he had a crush on Elphaba, and still continued to be in a relationship with Glinda. Elphaba didn’t notice the crush either, however the Lion Cub Scene is when she realized that she was starting to fall in love with him, which made me realize how heartbreaking “I’m Not That Girl” was. By the way, “On My Own” was key to making me realize “I’m Not That Girl” was heartbreaking in the first place- “I’m Not That Girl” used to be just a sad song.

After that scene, his chemistry with Glinda was weak while his chemistry with Elphaba was strong. He couldn’t stop thinking about the Lion Cub incident. This showed he and Glinda weren’t meant to be with each other. If you weren’t paying close attention, you would be extremely confused as to why that plot twist happened.

About Elphaba and Fiyero’s love for each other, it is a mature and courageous couple. It is stronger than the love Fiyero has for Glinda- what if he never was in love with Glinda or had a crush on her? “As Long As You’re Mine” showed the strength and maturity of Elphaba and Fiyero as a couple. Even after that scene, you saw their love for each other. Fiyero protected Elphaba when she was about to be arrested, and when he was about to be tortured, and then Elphaba tried spell after spell to keep him from getting hurt. Elphaba and Fiyero were a young couple that was mature and courageous.

The love triangle develops in the same way the characters do. I noticed the love triangle does not truly mature until the characters do. Have you noticed before. The love triangle does make you question a lot of things- why does the plot twist happen? Did Fiyero have a crush on Elphaba at Shiz? If so, did he know or did he not? See what I mean- it is a hard love triangle to understand.

Dream Musical Roles

What if I had the talent in musical theatre. What if I developed the passion in elementary school? What if I thought about training earlier to have the talent? What would my dream musical roles be? What would the ultimate musical role be? Those are interesting questions. I know I don’t have the talent to be on stage. I decided to have a post, and play and say what they would have been. SPOILERS

Elphaba-Ultimate

  • Of all musical theatre characters, Elphaba would have been the ultimate dream role. She is my all-time favorite character in musical theatre. The two of us have things in common while at the same time, the two of us are extremely different. Playing Elphaba would have meant singing a song I am not the biggest fan of- “No Good Deed”. That is the only solo that Elphaba sings that I don’t like that much. I love “I’m Not That Girl”, “Wizard and I”, and “Defying Gravity”. It would have been fun to get her better by being her. She would have been the ultimate dream role.

Eponine

  • I think of any lead character in Les Mis, it would have been Eponine. The thought of wanting to be Eponine sounds scary. It sounds scarier than Elphaba. I would have been feeling heartbreak night after night after night. I don’t know if I would have liked to die- that thought sounds daunting. I know you are acting. She is a strong, courageous, and young girl- she goes through so much- she doesn’t deserve the life she had. She had to deal with a family who wouldn’t love her, extreme poverty, and unrequited love, but at least in the end, she was with Marius. Still, if it was any lead character in Les Mis, it still would be Eponine. My parents believe that Eponine is my favorite character in Les Mis, but just afraid to admit it.

Ensemble of Les Mis

  • I don’t mind being a lead or an ensemble member of Les Mis. If it was a dream role, it wouldn’t matter how I end up in Les Mis.

Anna

  • I know Frozen only came out a year ago, but being Anna would be awesome. I relate to Anna a lot. I relate to her outgoing personality. In addition, I am also the youngest sibling. Frozen is one of my favorite contemporary Disney musicals. I believe part of why I connected to Frozen so much is due to the parallels it has to Wicked. It is coming to my hometown October 2020.

It is hard to think of dream roles when you are not going to be on stage. Thought it would be a fun thing to do.

Beginning of Wicked’s Love Triangle

One scene in particular in Wicked is fun to look at. The interesting part about this scene is that it isn’t a song. I love exploring the Lion Cub Scene- it actually is the beginning of the love triangle. It helps you understand the plot twist in act II. What I am going to say it based off the most recent Lion Cub scene- It is the one between Mary Kate Morrissey’s Elphaba and Ashley Parker Angel’s Fiyero.

Major or Minor Spoilers:

To put into context- previously in class, Elphaba saw a scared Lion Cub in a cage. As a result she got angry and accidentally put a spell on the class, which didn’t affect Fiyero. The two of them run them into the woods (I believe) to let the Lion Cub go. You have to closely examine the scene to understand Fiyero- it is one of his biggest moments in the show. Based upon the scene, he begins to soften up- prior he was a bit of a jerk. These two appear to playfully talk with each other- it seems as if Fiyero has a crush on Elphaba, but doesn’t seem aware of it- foreshadowing act II. Fiyero eventually asks Elphaba why the spell didn’t affect him.

Fiyero and Elphaba during the Lion Cub scene

In that moment when he asks her, Elphaba realizes something- she is starting to fall in him- that actually helps you understand how heartbreaking “I’m Not That Girl” is. This scene is very helpful when it comes to Fiyero- he is very hard to understand as a character- he really starts to develop in his scene. I came to the conclusion based upon Ashley Parker Angel’s Fiyero that Fiyero did have a crush on Elphaba in his days at Shiz, but did not seems aware of it and based upon Mary Kate Morrissey’s Elphaba, she did not seem to realize that Fiyero had feelings for her. This scene helps explain a lot. Yes, it is the beginning of the love triangle, but it does help foreshadow the plot twist- the moment when the unrequited love shifts to Glinda.

My Favorite Musical Theatre Love Triangle

Love triangles exist in musical theatre. There are three that come straight to mind when I think of them. They are the Phantom of the Opera, Les Mis, and Wicked one. All three them add texture to those musicals. Which one of those is my favorite musical theatre love triangle?

MAJOR SPOILERS

Wicked’s love triangle is my favorite from that group. Wicked’s love triangle is the first love triangle I ever emotionally bonded with. It is actually the one where I discovered the concept of love triangle. It is between Glinda x Fiyero x Elphaba. A lot of my love for the Wicked love triangle does come from it being the first one I bonded with.

Then there’s the complex side to Wicked’s love triangle. In act I, Glinda and Fiyero are a couple with Elphaba dealing with unrequited love. Elphaba responds to her unrequited love by not pursuing Fiyero because it is her best friend who is in a relationship with him. You think the setup is going to stay this way.

Enter act II, Fiyero hears all of these rumors spread about Elphaba, and he knows they are not true. He all of a sudden realizes he is in love with Elphaba. Actually in his days at Shiz, I believe he had a crush on Elphaba without realizing it. It took until hearing those rumors to know his true feelings for Elphaba- so the unrequited love jumps from Elphaba to Glinda. Glinda, like Elphaba, does not try to steal Fiyero away. This love triangle does show the two girls’ loyalty towards each other. They do not let a boy get in the way of their relationship- the love triangle actually strengthens their friendship.

One of the interesting things about Wicked’s love triangle is that it develops in the same way the characters do. It fully matures when the characters do. It is at the end of act I when Elphaba truly matures and at the beginning of act II when Fiyero truly matures. “As Long as Your’e Mine” is a very mature and mystical song- it also is very ironic- you thought Elphaba would ALWAYS have unrequited love- but it does not happen. Elphaba and Fiyero truly shows bravery towards each other and wants to protect each other. What other love triangle has two characters ending up with unrequited love at some point? Saying that Elphaba and Fiyero are a couple is a spoiler in itself.

What do you think makes a strong love triangle?