What makes Les Mis’ love triangle Easier to understand than Wicked’s?

I will describe here why the love triangle in Les Mis is less complex than the one in Wicked. The love triangle in Les Mis is found between revolutionary Marius, brave and strong Eponine, curious and protected Cosette. The love triangle in Wicked is between Elphaba, Glinda, and Fiyero. What makes one love triangle less complex than the other.

Major Spoilers:

For starters, all the characters in Wicked are complex. It is the most obvious that Elphaba and Glinda are complex. Fiyero is complex even though it does not seem that way. Fiyero’s complexity comes from his role in the love triangle and his development. In act I, Elphaba has unrequited love for Fiyero, and you are expecting for her to always have unrequited love for him. However in act II, that unrequited love jumps to Glinda when Fiyero realizes his love for Elphaba. You end up questioning a lot of things-such as did Fiyero have feelings for her previously? Why does the plot twist happen?, etc…. This curveball is important on Fiyero’s development. It makes Fiyero mature. The love triangle in Wicked is important for the friendship found between Elphaba and Glinda- both of them decide to not steal Fiyero away from their best friend when they both have unrequited love for him- it strengthens their friendship. This love triangle is not straightforward.

I’m Not That Girl

Now on to the Les Mis love triangle. It is the one found between Cosette, Marius, and Eponine. There is a reason why it is less complex. It is straightforward. It is not like two people are getting hurt from unrequited love. Only Cosette and Marius are a couple and Eponine has unrequited love- it stays that way unlike Wicked where the scenario switches gears on you. See what I mean. Fiyero and Marius are characters who are more complex than what they seem to be. To fully understand the Les Mis love triangle, you have to remember Cosette and Eponine’s childhoods- that would be important latter on.

Young Cosette is a servant at the Thenardiers’ inn. The Thenardiers are Eponine’s parents. As a child, the Thenardiers treat Cosette horribly- so you already know the Thenardiers are abusive- based upon how they treat Cosette. They seem to love Eponine as a child. After “Castle on a Cloud”, you discover that the Thenardiers are also pickpockets. You slowly get an idea of the environment that Eponine is going to grow up in. As a child, Jean Valjean arrives and takes Cosette away and provides her with a better life leaving the Thenardiers to treat Eponine the same way they treated Cosette. So while Cosette goes from bad to good, Eponine goes from good to bad- that switch intrigues me. Eponine ended up being raised to be a thief and criminal and also ended up being unloved, abused, and neglected. She wasn’t shown kindness growing up.

Enter Marius-in Eponine’s situation, he was the first person who treated her kindly. He ended up being the only person who treated her like this. He was sweet and kind to her. He ended up being the good thing in life. She never saw any like him before. His kindness moved her to fall in love with him- this love ended up her greatest strength. Then, what happens when he and Cosette first bumped into each other- they fall in love, and Marius constantly is oblivious to Eponine’s love her him. Now Eponine’s love for Marius falls unrequited- it was before, but now it hurts her further, but she would anything for him even if it means losing him forever. Marius was Eponine’s light. She would risk a lot for him- she was why Marius and Cosette got together, and she protected Marius no matter what even when it meant standing up against her father.


Eponine did accept her unrequited love, which was clearly shown in “On My Own”. Based on the fact that she would protect Marius, she was led to the barricade. Marius was trying to protect her when he discovered her: that was why, I believe, he sent her away with that letter: hoping she didn’t come back, but she did. She sacrificed herself to save Marius from being killed. Her injuries were fatal, and still climbed down the barricade. She knew she was dying. When Marius saw her, he was worried: why else do you think he asked, why she came back. When she collapsed, she was happy being in the arms of Marius. Yes, Marius was devastated, but at least he stayed with her. You might call her love for Marius a weakness, but it was her greatest strength.

Wicked’s love triangle has the unrequited love jump from Elphaba to Glinda. The Les Mis love triangle does not have the unrequited jump: it stays on Eponine. See what I mean, it is easier to understand the Les Mis love triangle. Both have a reason for being in the musical- they are two of my favorite love triangles. To love a love triangle, you need to love the songs that come with them, the characters found in them, they are unique, and it is a love triangle where you understand why it is in there in the first place.


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What makes Wicked’s love triangle hard to Understand?

Major Spoilers

Of all love triangles, Wicked is my favorite love triangle. It is complex, strong, and in addition, the first one I emotionally bonded with. All three characters are complex. Elphaba, Fiyero, and Glinda are complex characters- it is most obvious that Elphaba and Glinda are complex, but not Fiyero. He is complex even though it doesn’t seem that way. Those three characters are the only characters in Wicked that I am emotionally bonded to. Back to the question, what makes Wicked’s love triangle hard to understand?

The answer belongs to Fiyero. Elphaba and Glinda love Fiyero, and at some point in Wicked, both of them have unrequited love for Fiyero. In act I, the unrequited love belongs to Elphaba, and you think, Elphaba would always have unrequited love for him. However, Fiyero realizes in act II that he loves Elphaba making the unrequited love jump to Glinda. Why does this plot twist? Did something happen in act I that is important to Fiyero? There are a lot of things that make you wonder.

There are reasons why you thought Elphaba would always have unrequited love for him. Look at her response for Fiyero when she first met him- she couldn’t stand him- he didn’t make give a good impression. He was a jerk in the beginning. Why would Elphaba fall in love with him? She was the one with the full “I’m Not That Girl” while Glinda got a reprise of “I’m Not That Girl”, which was extremely short. Now, let’s get to Fiyero.

Last time I saw Wicked, I decided to pay really close attention to Fiyero. I did not want to leave the theatre with the “WAY” question again. Fiyero did have a crush on Elphaba at Shiz. Based upon the Lion Cub Scene, he and Elphaba were playfully flirty with each other making me coming to the conclusion that he did have a crush on Elphaba. Despite seeing that, I don’t think he realized he had a crush on Elphaba, and still continued to be in a relationship with Glinda. Elphaba didn’t notice the crush either, however the Lion Cub Scene is when she realized that she was starting to fall in love with him, which made me realize how heartbreaking “I’m Not That Girl” was. By the way, “On My Own” was key to making me realize “I’m Not That Girl” was heartbreak in the first place- “I’m Not That Girl” used to be just a sad song.

After that scene, his chemistry with Glinda was weak while his chemistry with Elphaba was strong. He couldn’t stop thinking about the Lion Cub incident. This showed he and Glinda weren’t meant to be with each other. If you weren’t paying close attention, you would be extremely confused as to why that plot twist happened.

About Elphaba and Fiyero’s love for each attention, it is a mature and courageous couple. It is stronger than the love Fiyero has for Glinda- what if he never was in love with Glinda or had a crush on her? “As Long As You’re Mine” showed the strength and maturity of Elphaba and Fiyero as a couple. Even after that scene, you saw their love for each other. Fiyero protected Elphaba when she was about to be arrested, and when he was about to be tortured, and then Elphaba tried spell after spell to keep him from getting hurt. Elphaba and Fiyero were a young couple that was mature and courageous.

The love triangle develops in the same way the characters do. I noticed the love triangle does not truly mature until the characters do. Have you noticed before. The love triangle does make you question a lot of things- why does the plot twist happen? Did Fiyero have a crush on Elphaba at Shiz? If so, did he know or did he not? See what I mean- it is a hard love triangle to understand.

The Horror of Notre Dame

What happened to Notre Dame on Monday was horrifying. It is a historic and important part of Paris and the World. It was on fire, and I was afraid we would lose the Cathedral. It started to be built in the 1100s. That is how old Notre Dame is. It was where Victor Hugo wrote his classic, Hunchback of Notre Dame. Hunchback of Notre Dame is one of my favorite books. . She is still standing after the fire, but still suffered a lot of damage. It was not only affecting those who live in France, but those around the world. Below is my review of Hunchback of Notre Dame.

https://megsdailymusings.wordpress.com/2017/12/26/hunchback-of-notre-dame-review/

Les Misérables Series-Episode 1

What is it like to see Les Misérables without the music? Les Misérables has a six week series, but without music. I was thinking, I don’t know how I can watch Les Misérables without the music. After all, I had been watching Les Misérables with the music for six years now. Then again, I had the book, and when a scene came on that resembled a song, I did not play the song. It was Victor Hugo’s Les Misérables that the musical came from. Yesterday, I watched the first episode- since I only knew the musical film and the stage show, I had no idea what the order of scenes would be and had no idea if I would be affected in the same way the musical affects me.

Major and Minor Spoilers

Right away, I knew how different this series was going to be different. It starts at the end of The Battle of Waterloo- that would mean the first character you would be introduced to would be Thenardier. This episode gives you a backstory to Marius- it was Thenardier that unintentionally saved Marius’ father from the Battler of Waterloo. In the musical, you never saw Waterloo or Marius’ father. You never knew about Marius’ grandfather and the conflict between Marius’ father and his grandfather- that is an important part of Marius’ backstory. You got to see that Marius’ grandfather did not want Marius’ father in Marius’ life.

You got to see that life in the prison was affecting Valjean even deeper. The prison was terrible. You saw them working for more days, and the guards yelling at them. You understood why prison made Valjean a harsh and angry man when he left. The musical only shows a snippet of that- at least in this version, you understood it much much better. When he visits the bishop, he did say to him that he does not believe that love could change a man. He still was angry at society. It has that scene in the book where he stole a coin from a young boy- this is when he realized he truly messed up, and that he needed to change.

Even with Javert, you got to explore more of his backstory. The only thing I learned of his backstory in the musical is that he was born in jail. I did not know anything else. In one scene, Valjean saved a prison guard. Javert questioned him, and he explained to Valjean that he was born in jail, and that his parents were criminals-that now makes sense why Javert believes that “once a criminal always a criminal”. He was born to criminals and in jail. So Javert learned to hate them- now that logic makes sense.

Now with Fantine- like the other characters, backstory. You got to see her when she was truly happy. You saw her before she was abandoned. You got to see her living life and loving Felix, the one who would be Cosette’s biological father. This episode ends with Fantine holding baby Cosette wondering what they are supposed to do now that Felix left them.

Since there was no music, I had no idea how I would react. I cried and got emotional- which is my same reaction in the musical. I had gotten so emotionally connected to Les Misérables- the plot and characters. I feel like next week is going to be harder to watch.

“One Day More”

As many people know, I am obsessed with Les Mis. I have known about the Masterpiece six part series for a long time. It has aired in the UK leaving audiences in the US waiting until April. It will be Les Misérables, not Les Mis. That means it is a non-musical version. I keep on trying to visualize what Les Misérables will be like without the songs. I am so used to the songs that Les Misérables without songs sounds crazy.

Tomorrow is the beginning of the six part series. It will take place over six weeks. What will it be like without the songs? It still is Les Misérables. It still will have Jean Valjean, Javert, Fantine, Monsieur and Madame Thenardier, Eponine, Marius, Cosete, and Enjolras. I did read the book, and there are a few differences with some of these characters. How will I approach this when it is not the musical?

I believe I will approach it in a similar way that I did with the book. This time, instead of using the musical, I will use the book. It will be looking at the book versions of the characters. You will be seeing more of the backstory of the characters. The backstory wasn’t in the musical with some of the characters. The musical will still help in a way- when I read the book, the musical was extremely helpful in understanding what was going on even when I saw differences. The book made me realize that some of the characters are more complex than I thought they were.

Dream Musical Roles

What if I had the talent in musical theatre. What if I developed the passion in elementary school? What if I thought about training earlier to have the talent? What would my dream musical roles be? What would the ultimate musical role be? Those are interesting questions. I know I don’t have the talent to be on stage. I decided to have a post, and play and say what they would have been. SPOILERS

Elphaba-Ultimate

  • Of all musical theatre characters, Elphaba would have been the ultimate dream role. She is my all-time favorite character in musical theatre. The two of us have things in common while at the same time, the two of us are extremely different. Playing Elphaba would have meant singing a song I am not the biggest fan of- “No Good Deed”. That is the only solo that Elphaba sings that I don’t like that much. I love “I’m Not That Girl”, “Wizard and I”, and “Defying Gravity”. It would have been fun to get her better by being her. She would have been the ultimate dream role.

Eponine

  • I think of any lead character in Les Mis, it would have been Eponine. The thought of wanting to be Eponine sounds scary. It sounds scarier than Elphaba. I would have been feeling heartbreak night after night after night. I don’t know if I would have liked to die- that thought sounds daunting. I know you are acting. She is a strong, courageous, and young girl- she goes through so much- she doesn’t deserve the life she had. She had to deal with a family who wouldn’t love her, extreme poverty, and unrequited love, but at least in the end, she was with Marius. Still, if it was any lead character in Les Mis, it still would be Eponine. My parents believe that Eponine is my favorite character in Les Mis, but just afraid to admit it.

Ensemble of Les Mis

  • I don’t mind being a lead or an ensemble member of Les Mis. If it was a dream role, it wouldn’t matter how I end up in Les Mis.

Anna

  • I know Frozen only came out a year ago, but being Anna would be awesome. I relate to Anna a lot. I relate to her outgoing personality. In addition, I am also the youngest sibling. Frozen is one of my favorite contemporary Disney musicals. I believe part of why I connected to Frozen so much is due to the parallels it has to Wicked. It is coming to my hometown October 2020.

It is hard to think of dream roles when you are not going to be on stage. Thought it would be a fun thing to do.

Becoming a Theatre Minor

If you have been following my blog for a while, you know I recently graduated from Gardner Webb University only a year ago. I had a Sociology Major with a double minor: one of which was theatre. Why do you think I managed to fit in that theatre minor while I was still trying to minor in Spanish cultural studies?

I think the answer to that lies no further than my first semester of Gardner Webb University. As a general ed. requirement, you have to take a public speaking class, and acting I counts. I did not want to be stuck with public speaking so I took acting I instead. It was in that semester where I really learned how difficult acting was. There are so many things you have to know how to do to get into someone who isn’t you- obviously memorizing the lines is the first step. There is the listening side to acting and you have to be aware of body language. I was memorizing my first monologue and scene, and that proved to be a difficult task. It was not easy to transform into another character. I was required to see both productions- Music Man and #8. Our final assignment was to show a different side of ourselves, and I choose to sing “Popular” even though I knew I was not a good singer. My teacher was the one who recommended me to continue theatre classes- if it wasn’t for that recommendation, there was no way I would have been a theatre minor. Due to taking that class, I have a lot more appreciation and respect for actors/actresses now that I know just how difficult it is due to taking an acting class myself.

I had already taken theatre appreciation at CPCC. So, I already took two theatre classes. It was 2016 now: Acting II was more advanced- we had to memorize two scenes and two monologues. There were back to back monologues- one dramatic and one comic back to back. My first time, I had to list less information about the characters, but in acting II, my teacher wanted us to get more in detail-as in everything. This was my last acting class. My other theatre classes would be filler if I needed an elective, and now theatre became my backup minor.

Applied theatre- 40 hrs involved in the theatre. I was assigned house manager for the two shows. I was the one selling tickets, but allowed to see one show as long as I got someone looking over front of house. The other hours were from NCTC-a North Carolina high school competition, and I helped sell souvenirs. I did take stage makeup- we were not graded based primarily off of talent, but more based off of improvement. When it comes to a class like that, talent would not make it fair. In terms of full classes, I would have taken 12 credit hours by now- theatre appreciation, acting I, acting II, and now stage makeup. Applied theatre only adds one credit hr- that class, I took it for two more semesters (3 credit hrs total)- in the same role.

In Spring semester 2017, I realized I could have a minor in theatre. I only needed one more credit. Voice and Diction was the class I took Fall 2017- back to some acting. You learned about accents, how to breathe to projects, and the part I struggled with the most was IPA. That class would not make me a theatre minor- I needed stagecraft, but was not offered Spring 2018. I had to email one of the theatre teachers- I learned that Spring 2018 was offering theatre management, and I could take it as a substitute. So I was set- theatre would become a minor. In Theatre Management, I now understand why shows go to the theatre they go to, have a higher appreciation of the crew, and the talent of the cast.

All because my acting I teacher recommended me to taking acting II, I am a theatre minor. Due to what I learned in theatre, I have a higher appreciation of theatre. I am more impressed with the talent I have seen on stage- now that I know is is harder than it seems. I am able to appreciate the crew. I now know the rehearsal schedule- it starts as a regular rehearsal eventually going into tech. I did not realize that for a show to start on opening day that the crew has to go backward. There are reasons why I have a high appreciation for everyone involved in theatre- all because I am a theatre minor.